Some suppliers are just jokes, David, it's unfortunate but true. You do have to bear in mind that almost any kind of computer/electronics product is typically a loss leader product, so even the best wholesale deals are not going to be all that great. This is a topic that has been beaten on endlessly in the six years and change I've been at Salehoo -- people think electronics is a high-markup market, when in fact it's one of the worst. You may not think you're seeing "real wholesale," and while I'd agree that the Celluloco price on those Samsungs is just wacky, the distributor-level wholesale -- something which requires massive prepaid quantity orders -- is probably not tremendously less.